Shoutout to everyone in SaaS going home for thanksgiving trying to explain WHAT THE HELL you do to your family ✌️❤️
At least we have eachother.
At least we have eachother.
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Here at my 5 copywriting rules. Written on my phone on the car ride to Vermont over the weekend:
1. Write like you talk. Not like you as a marketer. But you. The real person. The same way you would write an email to your friend to set up a play date with the kids.
2. Write choppy copy. Short sentences work great. Each line should play off of each other. You don’t need to finish every thought in every line.
3. First line, second line. The goal of your first line of copy is to get people to read the first line. The goal of your second line is to get them to write the third, etc. Ex: This is how I write email. Subject line gets you to open. First line gets you to the second, third, fourth, etc. all the way to the CTA. And the PS reinforces the CTA.
4. Loud up with pronouns. You. Me. We. I. Yes. It’s OK to write in the first person. That’s how people talk.
5. Fill your copy with real examples. Not stock photos. Not highly manicured images. But real ones. To let people know you’re real. Upload pictures from your iPhone. Take screenshots of tweets. Those will boost up any email, blog post, or landing page.
#marketing
#copywriting
1. Write like you talk. Not like you as a marketer. But you. The real person. The same way you would write an email to your friend to set up a play date with the kids.
2. Write choppy copy. Short sentences work great. Each line should play off of each other. You don’t need to finish every thought in every line.
3. First line, second line. The goal of your first line of copy is to get people to read the first line. The goal of your second line is to get them to write the third, etc. Ex: This is how I write email. Subject line gets you to open. First line gets you to the second, third, fourth, etc. all the way to the CTA. And the PS reinforces the CTA.
4. Loud up with pronouns. You. Me. We. I. Yes. It’s OK to write in the first person. That’s how people talk.
5. Fill your copy with real examples. Not stock photos. Not highly manicured images. But real ones. To let people know you’re real. Upload pictures from your iPhone. Take screenshots of tweets. Those will boost up any email, blog post, or landing page.
#marketing
#copywriting
Here at my 5 copywriting rules // even for B2B
1. Write like you talk. Not like you as a marketer. But you. The real person. The same way you would write an email to your friend to set up a play date with the kids.
2. Write choppy copy. Short sentences work great. Each line should play off of each other. You don’t need to finish every thought in every line.
3. First line, second line. The goal of your first line of copy is to get people to read the first line. The goal of your second line is to get them to write the third, etc. Ex: This is how I write email. Subject line gets you to open. First line gets you to the second, third, fourth, etc. all the way to the CTA. And the PS reinforces the CTA.
4. Loud up with pronouns. You. Me. We. I. Yes. It’s OK to write in the first person. That’s how people talk. Be the GUIDE in your emails. You’re the messenger reaching out on behalf of your company because you can HELP them.
5. Fill your copy with real examples. Not stock photos. Not highly manicured images. But real ones. To let people know you’re real. Upload pictures from your iPhone. Take screenshots of tweets. Those will boost up any email, blog post, or landing page.
1. Write like you talk. Not like you as a marketer. But you. The real person. The same way you would write an email to your friend to set up a play date with the kids.
2. Write choppy copy. Short sentences work great. Each line should play off of each other. You don’t need to finish every thought in every line.
3. First line, second line. The goal of your first line of copy is to get people to read the first line. The goal of your second line is to get them to write the third, etc. Ex: This is how I write email. Subject line gets you to open. First line gets you to the second, third, fourth, etc. all the way to the CTA. And the PS reinforces the CTA.
4. Loud up with pronouns. You. Me. We. I. Yes. It’s OK to write in the first person. That’s how people talk. Be the GUIDE in your emails. You’re the messenger reaching out on behalf of your company because you can HELP them.
5. Fill your copy with real examples. Not stock photos. Not highly manicured images. But real ones. To let people know you’re real. Upload pictures from your iPhone. Take screenshots of tweets. Those will boost up any email, blog post, or landing page.
Salesforce is a 100+ billion dollar market cap company.
AND THEY ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY DO.
They are running a massive brand campaign right now to go deeper. People know Salesforce, but the average person doesn't actually know what Salesforce *does.*
I loved hearing that. Because it's a reminder that messaging is HARD and it's never done.
#marketing
AND THEY ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY DO.
They are running a massive brand campaign right now to go deeper. People know Salesforce, but the average person doesn't actually know what Salesforce *does.*
I loved hearing that. Because it's a reminder that messaging is HARD and it's never done.
#marketing
I miss when LinkedIn was just people posting:
- PS we're hiring!
- Look at this award we won!
- Come to our webinar tomorrow!
- Have you read our new blog post?
Hey. Channels evolve, and I think LinkedIn has changed for the better. You should get rewarded for interesting content and having something to say -- not just posting links.
#marketing
- PS we're hiring!
- Look at this award we won!
- Come to our webinar tomorrow!
- Have you read our new blog post?
Hey. Channels evolve, and I think LinkedIn has changed for the better. You should get rewarded for interesting content and having something to say -- not just posting links.
#marketing
I've joined Drift as Chief Brand Officer, reporting to David Cancel. The result of a phone call from Elias Torres ⚡️ a few weeks ago.
I'll sharing the full backstory + what I'm working on in my newsletter this week --> join at davegerhardt.com. Usually goes out Weds/Thurs.
I'll sharing the full backstory + what I'm working on in my newsletter this week --> join at davegerhardt.com. Usually goes out Weds/Thurs.
There are 5 types of customers:
1. Most aware. These are the brand loyalists.
2. Product aware. They know you exist but they haven't bought from you yet.
3. Solution aware. They know there are solutions for their problem, but don't know you’re one of them.
4. Problem aware. They know they have a problem, but don’t know solutions exist.
5. Unaware. They don't realize they have a problem yet.
And they each require different messaging, content, and often strategy.
Another reason why marketing advice so often starts with “it depends.”
1. Most aware. These are the brand loyalists.
2. Product aware. They know you exist but they haven't bought from you yet.
3. Solution aware. They know there are solutions for their problem, but don't know you’re one of them.
4. Problem aware. They know they have a problem, but don’t know solutions exist.
5. Unaware. They don't realize they have a problem yet.
And they each require different messaging, content, and often strategy.
Another reason why marketing advice so often starts with “it depends.”
You can have a beautiful website and a great logo but no brand.
A brand is not your website. Or your logo. Or a witty tagline. “Building a brand“ doesn't mean “go hire a Creative Director.“
A brand creating a feeling. An attraction. Hey. These people are like me! Or Hey! These people get me.
Design is a piece of the puzzle -- a big one. But paint doesn't make a brand.
#marketing
A brand is not your website. Or your logo. Or a witty tagline. “Building a brand“ doesn't mean “go hire a Creative Director.“
A brand creating a feeling. An attraction. Hey. These people are like me! Or Hey! These people get me.
Design is a piece of the puzzle -- a big one. But paint doesn't make a brand.
#marketing
You can't help the startup founder who doesn't believe in marketing.
Earlier this week I was in a conversation with a bunch of students at Harvard Business School - all startup founders.
Someone asked how to make the time for marketing + brand building as a busy startup founder.
No one asks how to make time for:
- Hiring
- Finance
- Investors
- Advisors
- Product strategy
- Customer development
- HR
You make time for marketing by committing to it and making it a core part of where you spend your time.
Might not have to be the CEO, but someone - one of the founders - has to be responsible for thinking about marketing.
Unless of course people are just going to magically hear about your business, get to know, like, and trust you, and then buy your product without any marketing :) more power to you
Earlier this week I was in a conversation with a bunch of students at Harvard Business School - all startup founders.
Someone asked how to make the time for marketing + brand building as a busy startup founder.
No one asks how to make time for:
- Hiring
- Finance
- Investors
- Advisors
- Product strategy
- Customer development
- HR
You make time for marketing by committing to it and making it a core part of where you spend your time.
Might not have to be the CEO, but someone - one of the founders - has to be responsible for thinking about marketing.
Unless of course people are just going to magically hear about your business, get to know, like, and trust you, and then buy your product without any marketing :) more power to you
Atomic Habits, cold showers, and waking up before the sun is cool but have you ever started every morning with a screaming 3 year old in your room at 4:58 AM? That’s how I start my day on the path to success ✅
#marketing
#leadership
#marketing
#leadership
I don't want to be a billionaire. I don't really want to have dinner with billionaires.
I don't like traveling for work.
I don't like being away from my family.
I don't like meetings. I don't like networking. I'm not good at small talk.
I'd like to build a small, profitable business.
I'd like to be the anonymous rich guy at all of my kids school events and games and no one knows what I do or how I got there.
That sounds more appealing to me.
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Edit: On the topic of dinner with billionaires ... Unless it was Jay-Z. I would take the dinner with Jay-Z vs. the $500k.
I don't like traveling for work.
I don't like being away from my family.
I don't like meetings. I don't like networking. I'm not good at small talk.
I'd like to build a small, profitable business.
I'd like to be the anonymous rich guy at all of my kids school events and games and no one knows what I do or how I got there.
That sounds more appealing to me.
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Edit: On the topic of dinner with billionaires ... Unless it was Jay-Z. I would take the dinner with Jay-Z vs. the $500k.
6 signs you might have a brand:
1. People actually wear (and ask for) your swag.
2. People proudly put your stickers on their laptops.
3. People *actually* reply to your marketing emails.
4. People email you for no reason just to say hey I like X thing you said/did.
5. People buy tickets to your event without knowing much about the agenda.
6. People want to meet your marketing team when they come to your office — just to say hi.
REMINDER: Brand is not direct response. It’s hard to measure with a spreadsheet. But it’s not hard to measure with your GUT. You’ll know it when you feel it.
Don’t be afraid to use your gut in marketing today. It’s a lost art.
1. People actually wear (and ask for) your swag.
2. People proudly put your stickers on their laptops.
3. People *actually* reply to your marketing emails.
4. People email you for no reason just to say hey I like X thing you said/did.
5. People buy tickets to your event without knowing much about the agenda.
6. People want to meet your marketing team when they come to your office — just to say hi.
REMINDER: Brand is not direct response. It’s hard to measure with a spreadsheet. But it’s not hard to measure with your GUT. You’ll know it when you feel it.
Don’t be afraid to use your gut in marketing today. It’s a lost art.
I think way we train marketers/marketing teams is BROKEN.
We default to train people on technology first. Email. Social media. Landing pages. All the marketing automation stuff. AdWords. Facebook ads, etc.
What we SHOULD be doing is training marketers on PSYCHOLOGY first 🧠🧠🧠🧠
Understand what drives/motivates people -- and *then* layer on the tools & technology.
That's how I'd build the dream marketer.
Go and study:
- Social Psychology
- Cognitive Biases
- Go read: Influence, Thinking Fast & Slow, Predictably Irrational
*PS. I’m OK sharing this advice because I know that 99% of people will not actually go do it 🤷♂️ (that’s also how you can differentiate yourself — actually go put in the work & study).
#marketing
We default to train people on technology first. Email. Social media. Landing pages. All the marketing automation stuff. AdWords. Facebook ads, etc.
What we SHOULD be doing is training marketers on PSYCHOLOGY first 🧠🧠🧠🧠
Understand what drives/motivates people -- and *then* layer on the tools & technology.
That's how I'd build the dream marketer.
Go and study:
- Social Psychology
- Cognitive Biases
- Go read: Influence, Thinking Fast & Slow, Predictably Irrational
*PS. I’m OK sharing this advice because I know that 99% of people will not actually go do it 🤷♂️ (that’s also how you can differentiate yourself — actually go put in the work & study).
#marketing
I don't think enough people know that one of the keys to brand awareness is repetition.
Busy people need to hear about you over, and over, and over, and over again (and then through a friend) before they think about your product.
And went most marketing teams want to take 3 months to do a new website. You pick the project but it's usually months.
Marketing is a momentum game. Speed matters. And you'll learn faster too.
#marketing
Busy people need to hear about you over, and over, and over, and over again (and then through a friend) before they think about your product.
And went most marketing teams want to take 3 months to do a new website. You pick the project but it's usually months.
Marketing is a momentum game. Speed matters. And you'll learn faster too.
#marketing
Who broke LinkedIn. I want a refund.
I have 150,470 followers here.
I wrote a post this morning and it has reached 362 people and 8 likes.
Apparently they changed their algorithm?
This is why you build an audience you own through email and other channels.
I have 150,470 followers here.
I wrote a post this morning and it has reached 362 people and 8 likes.
Apparently they changed their algorithm?
This is why you build an audience you own through email and other channels.
The most important tool in marketing today is in the sales team's budget.
It's true. Usually they're the ones that paid for Gong.
I think Gong is the most important tool for marketers in 2020+
It's not about some AI or automation or optimization or tech. It's about listening to the actual words coming out of your customers mouth -- from anywhere.
I haven't been listening to enough customers first-hand, so I put the Gong app on my home screen and listened to Privy calls today as a podcast replacement during my workout, in the car doing errands, and cleaning the house.
Some of the best learnings for website copy/messaging, product marketing, ideas for content, pressure testing your company story/pitch, handling objections all can come from those calls.
Robert Collier said “always enter the conversation already taking place in the customer's mind.“
Sometimes you just need to go and steal the words of your actual customers.
#marketing
It's true. Usually they're the ones that paid for Gong.
I think Gong is the most important tool for marketers in 2020+
It's not about some AI or automation or optimization or tech. It's about listening to the actual words coming out of your customers mouth -- from anywhere.
I haven't been listening to enough customers first-hand, so I put the Gong app on my home screen and listened to Privy calls today as a podcast replacement during my workout, in the car doing errands, and cleaning the house.
Some of the best learnings for website copy/messaging, product marketing, ideas for content, pressure testing your company story/pitch, handling objections all can come from those calls.
Robert Collier said “always enter the conversation already taking place in the customer's mind.“
Sometimes you just need to go and steal the words of your actual customers.
#marketing
New Privy website coming.
New Privy book coming.
New Privy bootcamp coming.
New Privy trials up 50% since Jan.
Current size of marketing team: 5
Haven’t seen each other since March 13.
❤️
#marketing
New Privy book coming.
New Privy bootcamp coming.
New Privy trials up 50% since Jan.
Current size of marketing team: 5
Haven’t seen each other since March 13.
❤️
#marketing
It's 2020. Even if you have the best product, people won't believe it. Everyone is skeptical. Prove it. That's what marketing does. Build trust through content and prove it. 👊
#marketing
#marketing
I feel empty inside.
That's what it is. It has finally hit me.
There is something soul sucking about being on video calls all day.
When I hang around people in-person there is a certain energy. I leave hanging out with friends, neighbors, parents with a GOOD feeling.
I am just a hopeless little knowledge worker in my house in Vermont talking into my MacBook Pro all day and there's no way we were meant to work this way.
Last week a few of the Exit Five team was in town and in a 45 minute car ride to the venue (we were seeing a space for our event) we solved like ... seven problems. And had some laughs.
Note: I also love being home, being around my kids, super lucky for the flexibility. But I am human can hold two different thoughts in my head at once.
I wish I was around the team more!! Playing music in the office. Getting around a whiteboard to draw something out quick.
Just sitting here in between meetings 2:55 PM ET going straight to LinkedIn to pour my heart out...
That's what it is. It has finally hit me.
There is something soul sucking about being on video calls all day.
When I hang around people in-person there is a certain energy. I leave hanging out with friends, neighbors, parents with a GOOD feeling.
I am just a hopeless little knowledge worker in my house in Vermont talking into my MacBook Pro all day and there's no way we were meant to work this way.
Last week a few of the Exit Five team was in town and in a 45 minute car ride to the venue (we were seeing a space for our event) we solved like ... seven problems. And had some laughs.
Note: I also love being home, being around my kids, super lucky for the flexibility. But I am human can hold two different thoughts in my head at once.
I wish I was around the team more!! Playing music in the office. Getting around a whiteboard to draw something out quick.
Just sitting here in between meetings 2:55 PM ET going straight to LinkedIn to pour my heart out...
OK. I've been feeling super burnt out lately.
Not with work, but with AI.
I know it's incredible. But I am burnt out.
Too much time in all the AI tools. Too much time scrolling social media seeing the FOMO about this new skill vs that.
Gemini. ChatGPT. Codex. Claude. Claude Code. Claude Cowork. Cursor. How to automate your entire life. Why are you not doing this yet? How inefficient am I not mastering all these tools to run my life? My business?
And then the best thing happened.
One of my favorite artists J. Cole put out his "final" album The Falloff and this week he's been driving around his hometown in a Honda Civic and selling CDs out of the trunk.
In a world of fakes (or worse, your previous former favorite rapper hanging out on Epstein Island) this guy continues to be a breath of fresh air because he is real.
J Cole is actually famous for his lack of "flexing" - imagine that. He's not into fancy cars, jewelry, living a lavish live. He likes to make music, workout, play basketball, and connect with people on a real level. Hanging out at the mall in his hometown.
In a world where male role models seem to be ... vanishing by the month. I like this guy! This is a good trend!
Now I'm just wondering: how is everyone even going to play the CDs they are buying?? Who has a working CD player? Maybe that's why he kept the Honda Civic around...
Not with work, but with AI.
I know it's incredible. But I am burnt out.
Too much time in all the AI tools. Too much time scrolling social media seeing the FOMO about this new skill vs that.
Gemini. ChatGPT. Codex. Claude. Claude Code. Claude Cowork. Cursor. How to automate your entire life. Why are you not doing this yet? How inefficient am I not mastering all these tools to run my life? My business?
And then the best thing happened.
One of my favorite artists J. Cole put out his "final" album The Falloff and this week he's been driving around his hometown in a Honda Civic and selling CDs out of the trunk.
In a world of fakes (or worse, your previous former favorite rapper hanging out on Epstein Island) this guy continues to be a breath of fresh air because he is real.
J Cole is actually famous for his lack of "flexing" - imagine that. He's not into fancy cars, jewelry, living a lavish live. He likes to make music, workout, play basketball, and connect with people on a real level. Hanging out at the mall in his hometown.
In a world where male role models seem to be ... vanishing by the month. I like this guy! This is a good trend!
Now I'm just wondering: how is everyone even going to play the CDs they are buying?? Who has a working CD player? Maybe that's why he kept the Honda Civic around...
I spent the entire weekend in Claude Code.
As a 38 year old man. With a wife. Kids. Lots of things going on.
But I spent the entire weekend in Claude Code.
Now, my wife is pissed. Says I was not present all weekend.
My kids - they were home, but I just ignored them and hid on my laptop in the other room.
But at the least the Exit Five webinar emails will now be 5x more efficient to create!
Marketing, baby.
As a 38 year old man. With a wife. Kids. Lots of things going on.
But I spent the entire weekend in Claude Code.
Now, my wife is pissed. Says I was not present all weekend.
My kids - they were home, but I just ignored them and hid on my laptop in the other room.
But at the least the Exit Five webinar emails will now be 5x more efficient to create!
Marketing, baby.
Ah nothing like a last minute surprise trip to the Super Bowl!
The best part about being the Founder is that you can do whatever you want with the company money.
We took too long to get our super bowl ad in but wanted to find a way to make an impact - so I decided to go and do some "guerilla marketing" at the big game.
Leads have been slow this month, but great founders just make shit happen and do the hard things no one else wants to do. So I'm here in SF for the big game game repping Exit Five.
Go Pats! And let me know if anyone else is here.
Hope my guy Uern (number 10) scores a touchdown! Ha!
The best part about being the Founder is that you can do whatever you want with the company money.
We took too long to get our super bowl ad in but wanted to find a way to make an impact - so I decided to go and do some "guerilla marketing" at the big game.
Leads have been slow this month, but great founders just make shit happen and do the hard things no one else wants to do. So I'm here in SF for the big game game repping Exit Five.
Go Pats! And let me know if anyone else is here.
Hope my guy Uern (number 10) scores a touchdown! Ha!
The comment section. It's always about the comment section.
If my wife sends me a TikTok or IG video, I go right to the comment section.
Half of the jokes in our friend group IG DM channel where you share videos is about what people say in the comments.
So on the whole "Founder Brand" create content online thing.
You can't just post on your page, or have someone ghostwrite for you on your page.
You have to work the comments! Your own comments. Commenting on other people's stuff. I don't even care if you write your own posts on LinkedIn in 2026; just be active in the comments. Make jokes. Add an insight.
Observe human behavior: we all go to the comments in our personal lives!!!
If my wife sends me a TikTok or IG video, I go right to the comment section.
Half of the jokes in our friend group IG DM channel where you share videos is about what people say in the comments.
So on the whole "Founder Brand" create content online thing.
You can't just post on your page, or have someone ghostwrite for you on your page.
You have to work the comments! Your own comments. Commenting on other people's stuff. I don't even care if you write your own posts on LinkedIn in 2026; just be active in the comments. Make jokes. Add an insight.
Observe human behavior: we all go to the comments in our personal lives!!!